• Re: Single payer health c

    From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Sun Jan 26 18:26:00 2025
    The "Affordable Care Act" is training wheels for us to go on single pay health care. It does some good things, but for those who earn money bey the subsidies, the health care costs are painful where its just as hurt as actual taxes which leads to the movement to repeal it. For a family making 126k a year it would be like 12.9% of their income and the deductables would be super high which makes health insurance pointless.

    i know plenty of people who can't afford the ACA though.

    Years ago Obama promised me that I'd be able to have health insurance... my situation STILL has zero coverage - partly because of what I've created, partly because of costs and I'm not even 'poor'.

    The ACA was BS - but theres still no solution for MANY Americans. I'd love to hope that change is coming, but I don't think so... MAYBE Trump will think about solutions and come up with something for people like ME. [And you...]



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Aaron Goldblatt on Mon Jan 27 18:53:00 2025
    Aaron Goldblatt wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    I know the progressives want single payer, but unless we pay down our budget deficit a bit, I do not feel comfortable with the start up
    costs.

    Reforming our tax system such that all incomes pay something
    approximating a fair share, and reforming defense spending, would go a long way toward paying for the creation of a national health system and
    a stable Social Security system.

    Non-exhaustive example: Defense spending is known to be rife with
    waste, but efforts to control it and figure out what money is actually being spent on are stymied at every turn (and this week's firing of the Inspector General at DOD will not help). Defense spending is the number general line item in the budget after Social Security (see below), yet nobody wants to make any serious effort to touch it. Social Security
    used to be the third rail of politics; now it seems to be guns.

    Non-exhaustive example: Social security could be considerably shored up
    by lifting the maximum income limit on the tax (currently approximately $176,000).

    Non-exhaustive example: Taxing capital gains at a higher rate than we
    do presently, especially for gains values over $1 million. Currently,
    the individual rate sits at 20%, down from a maximum of 35% in 1979,
    and the corporate rate sits at 21%, down from a maximum of 35%
    beginning in 1993. Yet it's well known that large corporations pay
    little to nothing, sometimes even getting millions to hundreds of
    millions in refunds. In a fair system, that would not happen.

    Instead, politicians focus on penny-anty nonsense like cutting NASA and the USPS (both respectively less than 0.06% of the total spend in
    2024). The USPS in particular would be self-supporting if not for that silly retirement pre-funding accounting gimmick that no other business
    in the world is required to use. (And there is a significant argument
    to be made that not everything must be for-profit.)

    On the other hand, Republicans seem to have a significant aversion to doing anything at all that will help average people and make their
    lives easier. Non-exhaustive examples: Proposals to repeal the ACA
    without any kind of plan to replace it, despite now having had 14 years
    to come up with something; litigation and plans in legislation to
    destroy the SAVE plan for student loan borrowers; continual attempts to tighten eligibility for Medicaid, SSDI, SNAP and school lunches.

    Sounds like you should move your socialist commie-wannabe ass to
    Venezuela. I hear it's nice there this time of year.



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  • From Aaron Goldblatt@VERT/RNBWPNT to Gamgee on Tue Jan 28 02:26:00 2025
    Sounds like you should move your socialist commie-wannabe ass to Venezuela. I hear it's nice there this time of year.

    Your lack of refutation of anything I have to say suggests that it's your position that's indefensible.

    But hey, when you're a rabid and frothing Trump supporter, facts and logic don't matter. After all, dear leader is a documented serial liar himself.

    ag

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Aaron Goldblatt on Tue Jan 28 11:22:00 2025
    Aaron Goldblatt wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Sounds like you should move your socialist commie-wannabe ass to Venezuela. I hear it's nice there this time of year.

    Your lack of refutation of anything I have to say suggests that it's
    your position that's indefensible.

    Oh look! Yet another regurgitated Libtard talking point! <YAWN>

    Funny thing is... I'm well satisfied with my healthcare plan, and sure
    am hoping the ACA does get repealed, to save even more of MY tax
    dollars. Pay for your own shit. Does that sound like my position is "indefensible"? LOL

    But hey, when you're a rabid and frothing Trump supporter, facts and
    logic don't matter. After all, dear leader is a documented serial liar himself.

    And there's another one, and a huge assumption thrown in for good
    measure.

    If your preferred party was so great, they wouldn't have gotten their
    asses handed to them so soundly a couple of months ago, eh? So tell me
    again exactly *WHOSE* position is "indefensible"...

    Game, set, match. You lose.



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